Nadi

[nadine]

Yep, that's the one. I also have that book as well. Its pretty cool.

[lil_nadi9]

I don't have it Now I kinda wish I did, but but oh well

[rosakai]

I bought mine for about $23, I think, but nowadays you can get it for $12 or cheaper in certain bookstores.

[Night Bear]

I've heard of the book, but not sure if I want to get it if I do find it.

[nadine]

You should go get it Night Bear cause its a great book and they show how they made the movie inside the book.

[Night Bear]

To be honest I don't trust much of what Disney says.

And I did watch the making of the movie on the DVD. Does the book explain something they didn't on the DVD?

[nadine]

Actually, the books does explain more than the DVD movie itself, trust me.

[Night Bear]

I wonder if it explains a greek story (I think it was greek) where a hunter kills a stag, and is turned into a stag himself, and he's hunted by his brother. I believe that's how the story goes. This is I believe one of the inspirations for Brother Bear, which Disney denies (at least on the DVD).

[nadine]

Hmmm.....that sounds well, kinda interesting I think.

[Night Bear]

I heard about it before I saw the movie. I don't believe everything Disney says. One of Disney's biggest lies is TLK was formed from an original idea. This is not true. TLK bears too many similarities to Kimba the White Lion to be just coincidence.

I don't go to Barnes and Nobles that often, and I have no idea if they have the book or not anyway. It may be sold out. I haven't seen any BB books in stores lately, other than that kiddie golden book for young children.

[Epesi]

There's no evidence here to say that they're denying anything.

Animal transformation stories are extremely common, and the transformed character is often persecuted in one way or another. You could find a hundred tales from around the world and claim Brother Bear is based on one of them but Disney's just denying it. I'd like to see this Greek story myself before you get everyone jumping to conclusions; if you haven't told all the facts, it's easy to compare apples to oranges.

A Transformation Tale might be hard to find; I think my copy had to be ordered from Amazon. However, it is absolutely worth it. If you can't order it, perhaps you can find it at a library.

[rosakai]

Disney actually did say that TLK was inspired by Kimba the White Lion(i have never seen Kimba myself so i don't know how similar they are) but, if you really think about it, TLK was, quite basically, Hamlet with an animal cast and a happy ending.

And Disney also said that Brother Bear is based on a lot of stories in which a character gets transformed into a bear.

[Night Bear]

I only know what I heard... okay that didn't sound right. ^^; I got my information from a Kimba website, and considering that's the only site I found that talked about similarities between TLK and Kimba, that's all I knew.

Oh, about the Greek Story, I was told from a friend of mine, Lexxy, about it, so I looked it up after she told me. I didn't tell everything (I forgot to). The guy is transformed into a deer after killing a deer (just like in BB, with the bears), but the similarities end right there. I can't remember if it mentioned a brother, but it does mention that the hunter is hunted and killed by his own dogs. I don't even remember if it was Greek or not. ; And I said it may have been one of the inspirations of Brother Bear. I never said it was, and the transformation thing could have been just coincidence most likely, since the transformation is the only apparent similarity that this story and BB share.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to start anything. ^^; Oh, and thanks for the info on the book and Disney. ^^

[Epesi]

Sorry about that; my attitude was overly defensive. It seemed to me that your posts had an accusatory tone, but I responded too hastily. I apologize. ^^

As for the Greek myth, I ran a search a while back based on your original description, and the results match. The hunter, Actaeon, was transformed into a stag by Artemis -- not for killing a deer, but for seeing the goddess in the nude. (Alternatively, says Wikipedia, he boasted to her that he was the better hunter. In both versions, the ending is the same.)

[EbonyPatriot]

The hunter ... end is the same.

Rats Epesi you beat me to giving Actaeon's full story. As a rather pointless footnote, the Animal's Who's Who lists the names of his hounds.

Oh and hey DarkHououmon, Nikiski gave the book's ISBN number here 0aaab0.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=discuss&action=display&thread=1092901739. That should help to try to track down, if you're interested.

Live long and prosper.
-EbonyPatriot